It shows the he was the actual first Super Saiyan, the beginning of the legend!

no it wasnt. Bardock Vs. Vegeta. Das wären bestimmt starke Frauen .

Deshalb bin ich für Bardock . or a bullshit innacurate dub line designed to confuse people. Will you stop harrasing everyone trying to say their wrong because they go by the english version not the stupid jap version?

not equal to it.

Power Levels: no it wasnt. Vegeta's power level at this time is about 14000 but I think he can buff it up to 18000 for a bit. Have you guys never watched the new Bardock special? Oktober 2001. ? But if the question is who were stronger before Planet Vegeta was destroyed, the obvious answer is King Vegeta. frieza didnt even care about his presence.

Turles. Nightmare to you!".

--DARK 16:12, June 30, 2011 (UTC), King Vegeta is stronger, but if Bardock wouldn't have been stubborn and he healed again Bardock would be stronger. Lssj4 11:06, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I say that alot don't I lol.Supreme Gohan 09:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Realize King Vegeta is the King of Saiyans. Bardock or Vegeta from the Saiyan saga? lol. Registriert seit: 6. And He's A KING and he suppose to be a strong warrior but he was killed by 1 single punch. Hmm. but hes the king for a reason. I am truth.

I am protector of the innocent.

bardock was a low class who almost died a whole lot.

Bardock is ein Low-Class Fighter, der zwar im Kampf gegen Freezers Schergen gut abschneidet, weil er so wütend ist aber trotzdem geht er drauf.

Außerdem hab ich schon grundsetzlich was gegen die Son Familie und da gehört Bardock eben mit dazu.

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whereas he had to personally deal with king vegeta. and bardock wouldnt? People of the Earth....PUT YOUR HANDS UP OR YOUR ALL GOING TO DIE!!! ach DBZ hat so viele ungereimtheiten... da wär das doch garnich mehr aufgefallen, ich dachte bisher nur das böse leute und die, die eines natürlichen todes gestorben sind nicht wiedererweckt werden könnensweatdrop. Vegeta kommt nicht an Songoku ran dan kommt er an Bardock erst recht nicht ran . Ich finde es voll schade das man die Mütter von Vegeta und Songoku nicht zeigt . bardock has never been compared to king vegeta, only that bardock is "almost 10 000".

and he did nothing but get killed by frieza. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. So you only enforced what I said in my previous post. If it were King Vegeta vs. Bardock (enraged on his way to Frieza’s ship) I would say that Bardock would win. Dieses Thema im Forum "DB die Charaktere" wurde erstellt von Litli Vegeta, 14. Bardock can't go kaiokan and his friends are dead. Sie werden dort jedoch von Dodoria, Freezers persönlichem Gefolgsmann, und dessen Soldaten angegriffen und getötet. If you watched the first few episodes of DBZ then you can tell that power levels change a lot, courtesy of Raditz.

Whoever keeps making my forum worse than it is now stop it or I will tell my parents.

Also, who is the strongest Saiyan in the end of Dragon Ball Z? This is one of Bardock's basic Energy Wave Blast 2 attacks in the Budokai Tenkaichi series.

[[Category:{{{1}}}|Bardock vs King Vegeta - who is stronger?]] He somehow travels back in time after being hit by the blast, and ends up fighting Frieza's ancestor.

not once. I take back what I said about Bardock.

Bardock first used it to finish off Toolo, and later to kill the last two remaining members of Dodoria's Elite.

finde ihn einfach besser als veggi.. Also ich bin für Vegeta. it proves nothing. JordanTH 15:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), But Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon power level was above 1,200 it was like 1,308 or something like that. rewatch the real special, not the fake mistranslated english dub, implying he ISNT as strong as King Vegeta yet.

did they need talking every 5 seconds?

below it. Bardock awakens on an unknown planet, finding himself to be alive and well. Bardock would have a huge power boost, and King Vegeta would be in shock over the outcome of their battle. that was a dub line and they dont count. The line that Bardock's gonna surpass King Vegeta if he keeps this up could have just been a figure of speech or exaggeration to show how rapidly he was increasing in power. the english dub is fake.

Japanese version is the same.

Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! Making him stronger discussion closed.Lssj4 12:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I disagree. my facts are facts.

I'd say Bardock because he seems like a really amazing fighter and I think his power level's slightly higher.

Lssj4 16:01, June 21, 2011 (UTC), When Bardock was in the tank, the doctors said his power level was getting close to Vegeta's when they said, "...he might even surpass King Vegeta!"

Du musst dich einloggen oder registrieren, um hier zu antworten. Final Revenger – An attack used to defeat Dodoria's elites on Planet Meat. King Vegeta was strong but against first form frieza...well he was 4 times weaker than nail. Isnt bardock stronger with all those near death situations?

If Bardock were threatening to surpass him, King Vegeta probably would have done away with him like he did Broly.

--DARK 17:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC).

Who knows for sure.... pretty sure he was weaker than Vegeta.

However, with strategy and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, they were able to win. i dont think its innaccurate.

Until you provide a TRUE SOURCE of Akira Toriyama or Toei Animation stating that or FUNimation admitting that their dub is inaccurate and wrong.

they made up entirely new lines that werent even close to what was in the original.

Während Bardock in einer Regenerationskapsel geheilt wird, erhalten seine Freunde von Freezer den Auftrag, den Planeten Meat einzunehmen. - Gohan, "It will take more than head games to stop me! King Vegeta:15.000(Said to be stronger then Bardock so a guess).

You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps...HIS PRIDE!" So King Vegeta must be between 10,000 and 18,000. watch the english dub then watch japanese dub.

Raditz was considerably stronger then both Goku and Piccolo, after all.

Lssj4 16:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Krillin uses strategy to win most of his battles! He also learns that he's been in a coma for thirty years…. 1. captain ginyu. you act like bardock planned all along to go alone. Discussion forum for Dragonball Z and alround fun community! not beyond it. Just some random fan who does'nt like the english dub so they call it fake.

Battle of the Saiyans Bardock.He could atleast face Frieza King Vegeta would die fighting Frieza's men and vegeta surpassed his on father.

hmm u can correct me if im wrong but if im not mistakin kid vegeta had a stronger power level then bardock b4 da saiyan saga...which would mean he's WAaay stronger then bardock n da saiyan saga. For what it's worth, Nappa was also a noble and he wasn't above 4000! No one cares if you think its inaccurate or not.Lssj4.

I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. Ich hab mal für Bardock gestimmt! 3.

do not use the english dub as evidence.

2.

King Vegetas was stated to be above that. If we take that, which is offiial information, into account, then there's no discussion at all.



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