During the movement for Indian independence of the late 1800s, the concept of Bharat Mata (or Mother India) emerged. “But where are you from, really?” The response may be something very different than any fatherland, motherland, or homeland. Please note that the posts on The Blogs are contributed by third parties. Is it a fatherland because Avraham, Yitzchak, and Yaacov are laid to rest there or a motherland because Sarah, Rochel, Rivka, and Leah are? And then there is the IDF; strong impenetrable and determined. Outside of political contexts, homeland can be more neutral, though it may come across a bit old-fashioned sounding today (Birthday celebrations are different in my homeland). According to Wikipedia: ‘a homeland may also be referred to as a fatherland, a motherland, or a mother country, depending on the culture and language of the nationality in question’. by Tom Houlihan » 31 Jul 2005, 20:04, Post In the OED the expression Mother country has an earlier documentation date than fatherland, but fatherland precedes motherland: 1587 Mother country : a country in relation to its colonies. by John W » 31 Jul 2005, 19:23, Post “I am happy to have had the recognition in my life of my two countries, India and Israel, my motherland and my fatherland,” said eighty-two year old Eliyahu Bezalel, winner of India’s Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Award (2006) for overseas Indians. A homeland (rel. The people of some countries have historically personified their country in feminine ways. The dead sea, salty, fragrant flowers, the abundance of fresh fruit and vegetables, art, beauty, spiritually, and healing. As in, I moved from Ghana to attend Harvard or My grandparents were born in Armenia. She is a mother, freelance writer, editor, craniosacral therapist and lover of Israel, Judaism, and nature. by nondescript handle » 02 Aug 2005, 07:37, Post We have yet another option in English: homeland. Regards Panzermahn. by Panzermahn » 31 Jul 2005, 13:22, Post The U. S. of A. by Koko » 31 Jul 2005, 21:23, Post You take the good with the bad in Israel (as is true anywhere). Here in Slovenia we have a old expression Ocetjava (fatherland). According to Google Ngram data, homeland far outnumbers fatherland and motherland. Among many others, people of the Slavic (e.g., Czech, otčina) and Baltic nations (e.g., Estonian, isamaa) also tend to refer to their homeland as the fatherland. by szopen » 05 Aug 2005, 12:01, Post What’s The Difference Between Ghouls, Goblins, And Ghosts? Enter your email for word fun in your inbox every day. “Democracy” vs. “Republic”: Is There A Difference? Redefine your inbox with Dictionary.com updates! In case of abuse. by SiG I » 10 Aug 2005, 15:11, Post This may be due to the political (“domestic, national”) uses of homeland. So, what’s the difference between motherland and others fatherland? Mother goddesses abound in world culture. Israel = Fatherland (Eretz Hahabot, more accuretly translated as "the land of the ancestors"), Would it have anything to do with the individual language, and what gender is assigned to "the country? After all, isn’t Russia what we think of when we say motherland and Germany a typical fatherland? The department specifically deals with threats of terrorism, whereas national security encompasses a broader range of issues. This is why I think definitions can get a little confusing sometimes. This sense of homeland survives today in phrases like homeland security. The definition can also mean simply one's country of birth. by finnjaeger » 10 Aug 2005, 18:34. “WikiLeaks” vs. “Wikipedia”: Do You Know The Difference? In Chinese we say "zu guo", "ancestor's land". In the US, asking someone where they are from can be a sensitive topic and be considered a microaggression, especially if it’s asked in way that assumes an American citizen isn’t one because they are perceived to “look foreign” or have a “foreign-sounding name, e.g. It’s first recorded in the early 1200s and may be influenced by the Latin patria, meaning “fatherland.” Motherland is attested by the mid-1500s; we can find the French equivalent, terre mere, slightly earlier. The opinions, facts and any media content in them are presented solely by the authors, and neither The Times of Israel nor its partners assume any responsibility for them. Kalamazoo, Michigan. Like yin and yang, so much of our homeland can be defined by what is feminine and what is masculine. The terms motherland and fatherland both refer to one’s native country, one’s country of origin, or the home of one’s ancestors. 682 posts; 13.8k followers; 342 following; Motherland Concept showroom for mom's to be. Jennifer is from the East Coast of America and now resides in Los Angeles. Is there a difference in how some countries are referred to as "the Motherland" and some are called "the Fatherland?" It can mean “one’s native land” or “the home of one’s ancestors.” It’s slightly younger than fatherland and motherland, attested in the early 1600s. 1595 Mother country : one’s native land The German national anthem features verses that translate to “Unity and justice and freedom / For the German fatherland!” (German, Vaterland). How bizarre that sounds, for a Chinese-American girl to travel abroad to what some call motherland, others call the stolen land, for me to call it the home away from home. In Italian there are two words for that: Patria and Madrepatria (the first is fatherland, the second motherland), both are used in the same way. We can’t forsake the forest for the trees. In Poland there is Macierz (Motherland, with more emotional and somehow archaic notions, but that's it) and Ojczyzna (Fatherland). Please contact us in case of abuse. Jennifer Friedman. Israel is a place that I could actually live at, and raise a family. In English, fatherland is the older of the two. Delivering world wide #motherland www.motherland… What I believe intuitively, is that Israel is made up of both elements and that is why it is ultimately our homeland. ↳   Life in the Third Reich & Weimar Republic, ↳   Kriegsmarine surface ships and Kriegsmarine in general, ↳   Luftwaffe air units and Luftwaffe in general, ↳   German Strategy & General German Military Discussion, ↳   NSDAP, other party organizations & Government, ↳   The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section, ↳   Panzer & other vehicles - Photo threads, ↳   Axis Documents, Feldpost numbers, Postcards & Other Paper Items, ↳   The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, ↳   The Allies and the Neutral States in general, ↳   German Colonies and Overseas Expeditions, ↳   The end of the Ottoman Empire 1908-1923, ↳   Translation help: Breaking the Sound Barrier. Post America. Omaha, Nebraska. While the phrase dates back to the 1930s, it spread in the early 2000s in the US with the creation of the Department of Homeland Security after 9/11. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. What’s The Difference Between Atheism And Agnosticism? voorst Member Posts: 289 Joined: 02 Oct 2002, 09:32 Location: Northern Italy. Generally, Americans, when they want to refer to a place they emigrated from or where their ancestors were born, will simply refer to that country, e.g., Thailand, Nigeria, New Zealand, Ecuador. Murder: Differences In Intent And Degree. Perhaps it is both and this is why it is mostly thought of as our homeland. country of origin and native land) is the concept of the place where a cultural, national, or racial identity had formed. In english that would be something like Fatherland. by Eugene (J. Baker) » 04 Aug 2005, 13:29, Post Is it a fatherland because the archaeological evidence is full of ancient temples built by men, the ten commandments brought to the people from Moses the most humble man that ever lived or a motherland because mothers are ones to perpetuate the Jewish people? Let’s revisit Latin patria. What Does The Name “Frankenstein” Actually Mean? Top. When used as a proper noun, the Homeland, as well as its equivalents in other languages, often has ethnic nationalist connotations. by Windward » 09 Aug 2005, 08:16, Post This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjerne’s Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. To them, their home country is (in translation) the motherland. by cyric » 02 Aug 2005, 00:18, Post Both of these personifications have been linked to ancient mother goddesses. by Panzermahn » 01 Aug 2005, 08:18, Post For example, a common personification of Russia is Mother Russia (Matushka Rosa). Use of terms like fatherland and motherland can sound very nationalistic (e.g., We must protect the fatherland!) by voorst » 01 Aug 2005, 09:13, Post That word comes from the Latin for “father,” pater, which is related to the English word … patriot. by OldShatterhand » 06 Aug 2005, 10:48, Post

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